Message from the Underground

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Tue Nov 27 04:13:50 CET 2007


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Message from the Underground...
Misschien kan deze groep nog eens iets anders doen dan een nergens toe leidende discussie over underwater basketweaving or homo vs straight...
Wat is meer ter zake, de effectiviteit van Rita Verdonk, of de totaal niet interessante vraag hoe het de VVD raakt!!!!
Lees hieronder en huiver want de toekomst is in Hollandland reeds het verleden......
Dirkie
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By Susan MacAllen

In 1978-9 I was 
living and studying in Denmark .

But in 1978 - even in Copenhagen , one 
didn't see Muslim immigrants. The Danish population embraced visitors, 
celebrated the exotic, went out of its way to protect each of its citizens. It 
was proud of its new brand of socialist liberalism - one in development since 
the conservatives had lost power in 1929 - a system where no worker had to 
struggle to survive, where one ultimately could count upon the state as in, 
perhaps, no other western nation at the time.

The rest of Europe saw the 
Scandinavians as free-thinking, progressive and infinitely generous in their 
welfare policies. Denmark boasted low crime rates, devotion to the environment, 
a superior educational system and a history of humanitarianism.

Denmark 
was also most generous in its immigration policies - it offered the best welcome 
in Europe to the new immigrant: generous welfare pa yments from first arrival 
plus additional perks in transportation, housing and education. It was 
determined to set a world example for inclusiveness and multiculturalism. How 
could it have predicted that one day in 2005 a series of political cartoons in a 
newspaper would spark violence that would leave dozens dead in the streets - all 
because its commitment to multiculturalism would come back to bite?

By 
the 1990's the growing urban Muslim population was obvious - and its 
unwillingness to integrate into Danish society was obvious. Years of immigrants 
had settled into Muslim-exclusive enclaves. As the Muslim leadership became more 
vocal about what they considered the decadence of Denmark 's liberal way of 
life, the Danes - once so welcoming - began to feel slighted. Many Danes had 
begun to see Islam as incompatible with their long-standing values: belief in 
personal liberty and free speech, in equality for women, in tolerance for other 
ethnic groups, and a deep pride in Danis h heritage and history.

The New 
York Post in 2002 ran an article by Daniel Pipes and Lars Hedegaard, in which 
they forecasted accurately that the growing immigrant problem in Denmark would 
explode. In the article they reported:

"Muslim immigrants constitute 5 
percent of the population but consume upwards of 40 percent of the welfare 
spending."

"Muslims are only 4 percent of Denmark 's 5.4 million people 
but make up a majority of the country's convicted rapists, an especially 
combustible issue given that practically all the female victims are non-Muslim. 
Similar, if lesser, disproportions are found in other crimes."

"Over 
time, as Muslim immigrants increase in numbers, they wish less to mix with the 
indigenous population. A recent survey finds that only 5 percent of young Muslim 
immigrants would readily marry a Dane."

"Forced marriages - promising a 
newborn daughter in Denmark to a male cousin in the home country, then 
compelling her to marry him, s ometimes on pain of death - are one 
problem"

"Muslim leaders openly declare their goal of introducing Islamic 
law once Denmark 's Muslim population grows large enough - a not-that-remote 
prospect. If present trends persist, one sociologist estimates, every third 
inhabitant of Denmark in 40 years will be Muslim."

It is easy to 
understand why a growing number of Danes would feel that Muslim immigrants show 
little respect for Danish values and laws. An example is the phenomenon common 
to other European countries and the U.S. : some Muslims in Denmark who opted to 
leave the Muslim faith have been murdered in the name of Islam, while others 
hide in fear for their lives. Jews are also threatened and harassed openly by 
Muslim leaders in Denmark , a country where once Christian citizens worked to 
smuggle out nearly all of their 7,000 Jews by night to Sweden - before the Nazis 
could invade. I think of my Danish friend Elsa - who as a teenager had dreaded 
crossing the street to the bakery every morning under the eyes of occupying Nazi 
soldiers - and I wonder what she would say today.

In 2001, Denmark 
elected the most conservative government in some 70 years - one that had some 
decidedly non-generous ideas about liberal unfettered immigration. Today Denmark 
has the strictest immigration policies in Europe . ( Its effort to protect 
itself has been met with accusations of "racism" by liberal media across Europe 
- even as other governments struggle to right the social problems wrought by 
years of too-lax immigration.)

If you wish to become Danish, you must 
attend three years of language classes. You must pass a test on Denmark 's 
history, culture, and a Danish language test. You must live in Denmark for 7 
years before applying for citizenship. You must demonstrate an intent to work, 
and have a job waiting. If you wish to bring a spouse into Denmark , you must 
both be over 24 years of age, and you won't find it so easy anymore to move your 
friends and family to Denmark with you

You will not be allowed to build a 
mosque in Copenhagen . Although your children have a choice of some 30 Arabic 
culture and language schools in Denmark , they will be strongly encouraged to 
assimilate to Danish society in ways that past immigrants weren't.

In 
2006, the Danish minister for employment, Claus Hjort Frederiksen, spoke 
publicly of the burden of Muslim immigrants on the Danish welfare system, and it 
was horrifying: the government's welfare committee had calculated that if 
immigration from Third World countries were blocked, 75 percent of the cuts 
needed to sustain the huge welfare system in coming decades would be 
unnecessary. In other words, the welfare system as it existed was being 
exploited by immigrants to the point of eventually bankrupting the government. 
"We are simply forced to adopt a new policy on immigration. The calculations of 
the welfare committee are terrifying and show how unsuccessful the integration 
of imm igrants has been up to now," he said.

A large thorn in the side of 
Denmark 's imams is the Minister of Immigration and Integration, Rikke Hvilshoj. 
She makes no bones about the new policy toward immigration, "The number of 
foreigners coming to the country makes a difference," Hvilshøj says, "There is 
an inverse correlation between how many come here and how well we can receive 
the foreigners that come." And on Muslim immigrants needing to demonstrate a 
willingness to blend in, "In my view, Denmark should be a country with room for 
different cultures and religions. Some values, however, are more important than 
others. We refuse to question democracy, equal rights, and freedom of 
speech."

Hvilshoj has paid a price for her show of backbone. Perhaps to 
test her resolve, the leading radical imam in Denmark , Ahmed Abdel Rahman Abu 
Laban, demanded that the government pay blood money to the family of a Muslim 
who was murdered in a suburb of Copenhagen , stating that the family 's thirst 
for revenge could be thwarted for money. When Hvilshoj dismissed his demand, he 
argued that in Muslim culture the payment of retribution money was common, to 
which Hvilshoj replied that what is done in a Muslim country is not necessarily 
what is done in Denmark. The Muslim reply came soon after: her house was torched 
while she, her husband and children slept. All managed to escape unharmed, but 
she and her family were moved to a secret location and she and other ministers 
were assigned bodyguards for the first time - in a country where such murderous 
violence was once so scarce.

Her government has slid to the right, and 
her borders have tightened. Many believe that what happens in the next decade 
will determine whether Denmark survives as a bastion of good living, humane 
thinking and social responsibility, or whether it becomes a nation at civil war 
with supporters of Sharia law.

And meanwhile, Americans clamor for 
stricter immigration policies, and demand a n end to state welfare programs that 
allow many immigrants to live on the public dole. As we in America look at the 
enclaves of Muslims amongst us, and see those who enter our shores too easily, 
dare live on our taxes, yet refuse to embrace our culture, respect our 
traditions, participate in our legal system, obey our laws, speak our language, 
appreciate our history . . we would do well to look to Denmark , and say a prayer 
for her future and for our own.


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