Blair: Britain's 'sorrow' for shame of slave trade

Mon Nov 27 16:48:57 CET 2006

REPLY TO: D66 at nic.surfnet.nl

Was het niet onlangs gevierd, ca. 150 jaar geleden?

Ik kom er rond voor uit de hoofdlijnen beter te onthouden
dan jaartallen. Alles in een breder verband zien is m.i. nuttig.

Fritz

-----Original Message-----
From: Henk Vreekamp [mailto:vreek72 at hetnet.nl]
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:07 AM
To: Fritz van Rikxoort; 'Henk Elegeert'; D66 at nic.surfnet.nl
Subject: Re: Blair: Britain's 'sorrow' for shame of slave trade

Hmm, Haags grapje, Ritz? Je wedervraag over de einddatum van de
handelingsonbekwame vrouw verhult dus dat je die van de formele
slavernij
nimmer hoorde.

hv,u

----- Original Message -----
From: "Fritz van Rikxoort" <fritz at rikxoort.demon.nl>
To: "'Henk Vreekamp'" <vreek72 at hetnet.nl>; "'Henk Elegeert'"
<HmjE at Home.nl>;
<D66 at nic.surfnet.nl>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 9:07 AM
Subject: RE: Blair: Britain's 'sorrow' for shame of slave trade

> 1970 ?
>
> Of was dat het jaar waarin Europa Holland dwong
> een begin te maken met de afschaffing van
> de ondergeschikte behandeling van (getrouwde) vrouwen
> (monddood/handelingsonbekwaam, automatisch ontslag
> uit overheidsdienst, geen pensioenopbouw, enz.)?
>
> Fritz
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-d66 at nic.surfnet.nl [mailto:owner-d66 at nic.surfnet.nl] On
> Behalf Of Henk Vreekamp
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 12:21 AM
> To: Henk Elegeert; D66 at nic.surfnet.nl
> Subject: Re: Blair: Britain's 'sorrow' for shame of slave trade
>
> REPLY TO: D66 at nic.surfnet.nl
>
> Ook hier hebben onze voorvaderen een kwalijke rol gespeeld. De
Engelsen
> waren de eersten die begin 19e eeuw de slavenhandel verboden, ook voor
> derden. Ze hielden dan ook regelmatig Hollandsche schepen op weg naar
de
>
> Caraiben aan om die te controleren. Maar ja, de toenmalige Zalmpjes
> wisten
> de zaak voort te zetten tot ook het houden van slaven in Suriname werd
> verboden. Decennia later.
>
> Heeft iemand op dit forum vroeger op school ook geleerd in welk jaar
> deze
> slavernij werd verboden?
>
> hv,u
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Henk Elegeert" <HmjE at Home.nl>
> To: <D66 at nic.surfnet.nl>
> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 6:55 PM
> Subject: Blair: Britain's 'sorrow' for shame of slave trade
>
>
>> REPLY TO: D66 at nic.surfnet.nl
>>
>> http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,,1957278,00.html
>> Blair: Britain's 'sorrow' for shame of slave trade | Politics | The
>> Observer
>>
>> "
>> Blair: Britain's 'sorrow' for shame of slave trade
>>
>>
>> . Historic statement condemns 'crime against humanity'
>> . Critics say Prime Minister has fallen short of full apology
>>
>> David Smith
>> Sunday November 26, 2006
>> The Observer
>>
>>
>> Tony Blair is to make a historic statement condemning Britain's role
> in
>> the transatlantic slave trade as a 'crime against humanity' and
> expressing
>> 'deep sorrow' that it ever happened.
>>
>> The Prime Minister plans to go further than any previous leader in
> seeking
>> to distance himself from the actions of the British Empire, nearly
200
>
>> years after the 1807 legislation that led to slavery's abolition.
> However,
>> he will stop short of making an explicit apology despite years of
> pressure
>> from some black campaigners and community leaders.
>>
>> Article continues
>> 'It is hard to believe that what would now be a crime against
humanity
> was
>> legal at the time,' the Prime Minister will say. 'Personally I
believe
> the
>> bicentenary offers us a chance not just to say how profoundly
shameful
> the
>> slave trade was - how we condemn its existence utterly and praise
> those
>> who fought for its abolition, but also to express our deep sorrow
that
> it
>> ever happened, that it ever could have happened and to rejoice at the
>> different and better times we live in today.'
>>
>> The ground-breaking remarks will appear in the black community
> newspaper
>> New Nation, which has been campaigning for an apology for slavery,
and
> in
>> a statement to Parliament tomorrow.
>>
>> Blair was praised last night for breaking decades of official silence
> to
>> acknowledge the grievance and resentment still felt by many towards
> the
>> empire's exploitation of Africans. Paul Stephenson, a black activist
> in
>> Bristol, said: 'It's historic for a British Prime Minister to say
this
> and
>> it is to be welcomed. It shows a recognition of the importance of
> human
>> rights and challenges the deniers who don't admit that the British
> Empire
>> caused so much social, physical and psychological damage.'
>>
>> The Prime Minister's decision to make a statement on the issue will
>> reignite the debate on the role of apology in modern politics. He was
>> criticised when, in 1997, he said he 'reflected' on the deaths caused
> by
>> the Irish Potato Famine. The move will be seen by some as an attempt
> by
>> Blair to shore up his legacy both domestically and on the world
stage.
>>
>> According to notes seen in the possession of Baroness Amos, the Lead
> of
>> the House of Lords, earlier this month, the Prime Minister wanted to
> make
>> a bold gesture that will be 'internationally recognised'. He will
back
> a
>> United Nations resolution by Caribbean countries to honour those who
> died
>> at the hands of international slave traders.
>>
>> The notes suggested that Blair was willing to accommodate the
requests
> of
>> many campaigners and is 'prepared to go further than [he is] being
> asked
>> to' on the issue of an apology.
>>
>> The slavery issue has come to a head in the build-up to the
> bicentenary
>> next March of the parliamentary Slave Trade Act. Estimates vary that
>> between 10 and 28 million Africans were sent to the Americas and sold
> into
>> slavery between 1450 and the early 19th century. By then Britain was
> the
>> dominant trader, transporting more than 300,000 slaves a year in
> shackles
>> on disease-ridden boats.
>>
>> An advisory committee chaired by John Prescott, the Deputy Prime
> Minister,
>> whose Hull constituency was once represented by anti-slavery
> campaigner
>> William Wilberforce, has been planning the 200th anniversary
>> commemorations and addressing the problem of how Britain should
>> acknowledge its past. It was reported that Whitehall advisers had
> warned
>> that a full apology could open the door to claims for reparations
from
> the
>> descendants of slaves. Louise Ellman, MP for Liverpool Riverside, who
> has
>> been campaigning for an annual slavery memorial day, welcomed the
>> statement as ' major step forward. It says that slavery is a "crime
>> against humanity". It uses the word "shameful". It entirely
> disassociates
>> all of us from what happened.'
>>
>> The Observer revealed the campaign for an apology two years ago when
>> Rendezvous of Victory, a group which seeks to combat the legacy of
>> slavery, said it would call on the Queen to issue an apology. Its
> joint
>> co-ordinator, Kofi Mawuli Klu, said he was disappointed by Blair's
>> suggestion that slavery is a thing of the past: 'He's missed the
> point.
>> They do not understand contemporary enslavement. There is nothing in
> this
>> statement about the enduring legacy of slavery in terms of racism and
>> global injustice.'
>>
>> Klu criticised the absence of the word 'sorry', claiming: 'It's
adding
>
>> insult to the lingering injuries of the enslavement of African people
> by
>> the European ruling classes. The message is that if you commit crimes
>> against African people you cannot be held responsible; even when you
>> acknowledge that you have done wrong, you do not feel it necessary to
>> apologise.'
>> "
>>
>> Kan VOC-Balkje nog wat van leren ...
>>
>> Henk Elegeert
>>
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