Blair: Britain's 'sorrow' for shame of slave trade

Mon Nov 27 16:47:00 CET 2006

REPLY TO: D66 at nic.surfnet.nl

Tuurlijk,

Maar ontslag uit overheidsdienst bij trouwen
en ongelijke/geen rechten als zelfstandige werknemer
duurden langer voort,
nog steeds loopt Nederland achter in Europa,
al dwingt Europa ons telkenmaal ongelijke behandeling
evenals kartels en dergelijke te doorbreken.

Ik wilde maar aangeven dat onze cultuur dezelfde is
met symptomen als apartheid/verzuiling,
slavenhandel en onderdrukking vrouwen e.d.

Fritz

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Hoi Fritz,
De opheffing van de handelingsonbekwaamheid van de gehuwde vrouw was dit
jaar 50 jaar geleden. Je jaartal 1970 klopt dus niet.

Adrie van den Berg

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Onderwerp: RE: Blair: Britain's 'sorrow' for shame of slave trade

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1970 ?

Of was dat het jaar waarin Europa Holland dwong
een begin te maken met de afschaffing van
de ondergeschikte behandeling van (getrouwde) vrouwen
(monddood/handelingsonbekwaam, automatisch ontslag
uit overheidsdienst, geen pensioenopbouw, enz.)?

Fritz

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Ook hier hebben onze voorvaderen een kwalijke rol gespeeld. De Engelsen
waren de eersten die begin 19e eeuw de slavenhandel verboden, ook voor
derden. Ze hielden dan ook regelmatig Hollandsche schepen op weg naar de

Caraiben aan om die te controleren. Maar ja, de toenmalige Zalmpjes
wisten
de zaak voort te zetten tot ook het houden van slaven in Suriname werd
verboden. Decennia later.

Heeft iemand op dit forum vroeger op school ook geleerd in welk jaar
deze
slavernij werd verboden?

hv,u

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Subject: Blair: Britain's 'sorrow' for shame of slave trade

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> http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,,1957278,00.html
> Blair: Britain's 'sorrow' for shame of slave trade | Politics | The
> Observer
>
> "
> Blair: Britain's 'sorrow' for shame of slave trade
>
>
> . Historic statement condemns 'crime against humanity'
> . Critics say Prime Minister has fallen short of full apology
>
> David Smith
> Sunday November 26, 2006
> The Observer
>
>
> Tony Blair is to make a historic statement condemning Britain's role
in
> the transatlantic slave trade as a 'crime against humanity' and
expressing
> 'deep sorrow' that it ever happened.
>
> The Prime Minister plans to go further than any previous leader in
seeking
> to distance himself from the actions of the British Empire, nearly 200

> years after the 1807 legislation that led to slavery's abolition.
However,
> he will stop short of making an explicit apology despite years of
pressure
> from some black campaigners and community leaders.
>
> Article continues
> 'It is hard to believe that what would now be a crime against humanity
was
> legal at the time,' the Prime Minister will say. 'Personally I believe
the
> bicentenary offers us a chance not just to say how profoundly shameful
the
> slave trade was - how we condemn its existence utterly and praise
those
> who fought for its abolition, but also to express our deep sorrow that
it
> ever happened, that it ever could have happened and to rejoice at the
> different and better times we live in today.'
>
> The ground-breaking remarks will appear in the black community
newspaper
> New Nation, which has been campaigning for an apology for slavery, and
in
> a statement to Parliament tomorrow.
>
> Blair was praised last night for breaking decades of official silence
to
> acknowledge the grievance and resentment still felt by many towards
the
> empire's exploitation of Africans. Paul Stephenson, a black activist
in
> Bristol, said: 'It's historic for a British Prime Minister to say this
and
> it is to be welcomed. It shows a recognition of the importance of
human
> rights and challenges the deniers who don't admit that the British
Empire
> caused so much social, physical and psychological damage.'
>
> The Prime Minister's decision to make a statement on the issue will
> reignite the debate on the role of apology in modern politics. He was
> criticised when, in 1997, he said he 'reflected' on the deaths caused
by
> the Irish Potato Famine. The move will be seen by some as an attempt
by
> Blair to shore up his legacy both domestically and on the world stage.
>
> According to notes seen in the possession of Baroness Amos, the Lead
of
> the House of Lords, earlier this month, the Prime Minister wanted to
make
> a bold gesture that will be 'internationally recognised'. He will back
a
> United Nations resolution by Caribbean countries to honour those who
died
> at the hands of international slave traders.
>
> The notes suggested that Blair was willing to accommodate the requests
of
> many campaigners and is 'prepared to go further than [he is] being
asked
> to' on the issue of an apology.
>
> The slavery issue has come to a head in the build-up to the
bicentenary
> next March of the parliamentary Slave Trade Act. Estimates vary that
> between 10 and 28 million Africans were sent to the Americas and sold
into
> slavery between 1450 and the early 19th century. By then Britain was
the
> dominant trader, transporting more than 300,000 slaves a year in
shackles
> on disease-ridden boats.
>
> An advisory committee chaired by John Prescott, the Deputy Prime
Minister,
> whose Hull constituency was once represented by anti-slavery
campaigner
> William Wilberforce, has been planning the 200th anniversary
> commemorations and addressing the problem of how Britain should
> acknowledge its past. It was reported that Whitehall advisers had
warned
> that a full apology could open the door to claims for reparations from
the
> descendants of slaves. Louise Ellman, MP for Liverpool Riverside, who
has
> been campaigning for an annual slavery memorial day, welcomed the
> statement as ' major step forward. It says that slavery is a "crime
> against humanity". It uses the word "shameful". It entirely
disassociates
> all of us from what happened.'
>
> The Observer revealed the campaign for an apology two years ago when
> Rendezvous of Victory, a group which seeks to combat the legacy of
> slavery, said it would call on the Queen to issue an apology. Its
joint
> co-ordinator, Kofi Mawuli Klu, said he was disappointed by Blair's
> suggestion that slavery is a thing of the past: 'He's missed the
point.
> They do not understand contemporary enslavement. There is nothing in
this
> statement about the enduring legacy of slavery in terms of racism and
> global injustice.'
>
> Klu criticised the absence of the word 'sorry', claiming: 'It's adding

> insult to the lingering injuries of the enslavement of African people
by
> the European ruling classes. The message is that if you commit crimes
> against African people you cannot be held responsible; even when you
> acknowledge that you have done wrong, you do not feel it necessary to
> apologise.'
> "
>
> Kan VOC-Balkje nog wat van leren ...
>
> Henk Elegeert
>
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