Gates Has History of Manipulating Intelligence

[dirkie]

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Ja van Bush is niet veel beter te verwachten, maar
politiek gezien is zijn rol uitgespeeld. Nog wat
gelazer in de marge maar hij krijgt geen hand meer op
elkaar.
Dus Verdonk was geen baas op het bureau.. OK. helaas
heb ik weinig fiducie in dat soort onderweeld figuren
of dat nou gates of verdonk is.

Je gaat geheel niet in op mijn ietwat retorische
vragen over de ACLU en zoiets als Truthout. Waarom
indeed bestaat zuks niet in NEEderland. Waarom is er
geen onmiddelijke bilaterale bescherming voor
klokkenluiders en waarom is er nooit een van traa
onderzoek geweest.
Voor het landje dat altijd onmiddelijk met het
vingertje klaarstaat zou het niet meer dan normaal
zijn dat, zelfs al is het een tijdje geleden, eens
uitgelegd wordt waarom die Kolonel er plompverloren
bijstond. Zolang dergelijke kritiek niet of nauwelijks
door "de media" of een betere vorm van het bureau
Jansen&Jansen wordt uitgevoerd wordt et niks!
Alleen gezapig achteraf kankeren dat het zo'n
rommeltje is...
Hier in amerikaland is dus het motto gevolgd:
Throw the bums out!
Het is niet zozeer dat de democraten gewonnen hebben
de repukes hebben verloren! Nu wordt het roer dus
omgegooid an daar kan ook gates niets aan doen. Heeft
de Bush administration er een pleuris zootje van
gemaakt? Ja! Incompetence breeds!

--- Vreekamp <vreek72 at hetnet.nl> wrote:

> Hmm, Dirkie,
>
> Als ik wel ben ingelicht, was Verdonk niet 'bazin'
> bij de voorganger van de
> AIVD maar groepsleider-spion afd. politieke
> partijen. Ze is haar carriere
> begonnen als lid van de toenmalige PSP. Van haar
> rouleert een foto tgv 10
> jaar trouwe dienst, achterop een motor met een
> vermomde agent aan het stuur.
> Zelf hoefde ze niet vermomd (snor, bril, helm) omdat
> ze geen veldwerker maar
> analist was.
>
> Heb overigens genoten van die Gates-cv. Weer een
> superboef dus. Die Bush
> kent kennelijk niemand anders. Zou zijn vrouw echt
> alleen bibliothecaresse
> zijn geweest?
>
> hv,u
> -----
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dirkie" <geensloof at yahoo.com>
> To: "Henk Elegeert" <HmjE at Home.nl>;
> <D66 at nic.surfnet.nl>
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 9:17 AM
> Subject: Re: Gates Has History of Manipulating
> Intelligence
>
>
> > REPLY TO: D66 at nic.surfnet.nl
> >
> > Henk,
> >
> > Is er geen nederlandse vorm van thruthout?
> > Dan hadden we tenminste allemaal geweten dat de
> > minister van vreemdelingen zaken de voormalige
> bazin
> > was van de bvd, en ook waarom er een kolonel
> > plotsklaps op het podium stond "per ompres" in die
> > eerste persconferentie en waarom een dodelijk
> > autongeluk van de voorziter van een Parl. enquete
> > nooit echt gedaan is of de feiten niet
> gepubliceerd.
> > Kortom ik kan nog wel een 1/2 uurtje doorgaan met
> > filmrolletjes etc etc
> > Er zijn altijd mensen die de feiten kennen en er
> > anoniem best wel over willen praten
> > Waarom bestaat zoiets niet?
> > Of een nederlandse vorm van de ACLU?
> >
> > Hier is er, bi-lateraal, een overheidsfonds voor
> > klokkenluiders die gelijk in bescherming worden
> > genomen.
> > Er is nog zoveel te doen in Hollandland om de
> > "democratie" een beetje meer in de gaten te houden
> of
> > ter verantwoording te roepen.
> > Daar zou D66 echt mee kunne scoren, maar ja ze
> hebben
> > misschien zelf boter op het hoofdje?
> >
> > yowsa van dirkie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Henk Elegeert <HmjE at Home.nl> wrote:
> >
> >> REPLY TO: D66 at nic.surfnet.nl
> >>
> >> http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/110806R.shtml
> >>
> >> "
> >> Gates Has History of Manipulating Intelligence
> >>      By Jason Leopold
> >>      t r u t h o u t | Report
> >>
> >>      Wednesday 08 November 2006
> >>
> >>      Robert Gates, the former director of the CIA
> >> during the presidency of George H.W. Bush who was
> >> tapped Tuesday by the president to replace Donald
> >> Rumsfeld as Secretary of Defense, is part of
> Texas's
> >>
> >> good ol' boy network. He may be best known for
> >> playing a role in arming Iraq's former dictator
> >> Saddam Hussein with American-made weapons in the
> >> country's war against Iran in the 1980s.
> >>
> >>      Gates, who currently is president of Texas
> A&M
> >> University, came under intense fire during
> >> confirmation hearings in the early 1990s for
> being
> >> unaware of the explosive situation in Iraq in the
> >> 1980s, and the demise of the Soviet republic.
> >>
> >>      Gates joined the CIA in 1966, and spent
> eight
> >> years there as an analyst before moving over to
> the
> >> National Security Council in 1974. He returned to
> >> the CIA in 1980, and a year later was appointed
> by
> >> Ronald Reagan to serve as deputy director for
> >> intelligence. Five years later, he was named
> deputy
> >> director for the agency, the number two post in
> the
> >> agency. In 1989, he was appointed deputy director
> of
> >>
> >> the National Security Council and in 1991, when
> the
> >> first Bush administration was in office, he was
> >> named director of the spy shop.
> >>
> >>      During contentious Senate confirmation
> hearings
> >>
> >> in October 1991 - which are bound to come up
> again -
> >>
> >> Gates's role in cooking intelligence information
> >> during the Iran-Contra scandal was revealed. It
> was
> >> during those hearings that senators found out
> about
> >> a December 2, 1986, 10-page classified memo
> written
> >> by Thomas Barksdale, the CIA analyst for Iran.
> That
> >> memo claimed that covert arms sales to the
> country
> >> demonstrated "a perversion of the intelligence
> >> process" that is staggering in its proportions.
> >>
> >>      The Barksdale memo was used by Gates's
> >> detractors to prove he played an active role in
> >> slanting intelligence information during his
> tenure
> >> at the agency under Reagan. Eerily reminiscent of
> >> the way CIA analysts were treated by Vice
> President
> >> Dick Cheney during the run-up to the Iraq war
> three
> >> years ago, when agents were forced to provide the
> >> Bush administration with intelligence showing
> Iraq
> >> was a nuclear threat, Barksdale said he and other
> >> Iran analysts "were never consulted or asked to
> >> provide an intelligence input to the covert
> actions
> >> and secret contacts that have occurred."
> >>
> >>      Barksdale added that Gates was the pipeline
> for
> >>
> >> providing "exclusive reports to the White House,"
> >> intelligence that was "at odds with the
> overwhelming
> >>
> >> bulk of intelligence reporting, both from U.S.
> >> sources and foreign intelligence services."
> >>
> >>      In testimony before the Senate on October 1,
> >> 1991, Harold P. Ford, former vice chairman of the
> >> National Intelligence Council, described an
> aspect
> >> of Gates's personality that mirrors many of the
> top
> >> officials in the Bush administration today.
> >>
> >>      "Bob Gates has often depended too much on
> his
> >> own individual analytic judgments and has ignored
> or
> >>
> >> scorned the views of others whose assessments did
> >> not accord with his own. This would be okay if he
> >> were uniquely all-seeing. He has not been ..."
> Ford
> >> said.
> >>
> >>      At the hearing, other CIA analysts said
> Gates
> >> forced them to twist intelligence to exaggerate
> the
> >> threat posed by the former Soviet Union. Analysts
> >> alleged a report approved by Gates overstated
> Soviet
> >>
> >> influence in Iran that specifically led the late
> >> President Ronald Reagan into making policy
> decisions
> >>
> >> that turned into the Iran-Contra scandal.
> >>
> >>      Jennifer Glaudemans, a former CIA analyst,
> said
> >>
> >> at the 1991 Gates confirmation hearings that she
> and
> >>
> >> her colleagues at the CIA believed "Mr Gates and
> his
> >>
> >> influence have led to a prostitution of [Soviet]
> >> analysis."
> >>
> >>      Melvin Goodman, Glaudemans's former boss at
> the
> >>
> >> CIA, also said that under Gates, the CIA was
> "trying
> >>
> >> to provide the intelligence analysis ... that
> would
> >> support the operational decision to sell arms to
> >> Iran."
> >>
> >>      Gates testified at his confirmation hearing
> in
> >> October 1991 that he was aware the United States
> was
> >>
> >> selling arms to Iran in exchange for hostages.
> But
> >> he denied that he had any knowledge that Oliver
> >> North, the former National Security aide, was
> >> diverting money from arms sales to Iran to
> secretly
> >> aid the Nicaraguan contras.
> >>
> >>      But White House memos released at the time
> >> showed that North and John Poindexter, the
> national
> >> security adviser at the time, engaged in
> classified
> >> briefings with Gates on numerous occasions about
> >> Iran-Contra. Poindexter testified that he
> discussed
> >> the situation with Gates, but Gates said at his
> >> Senate confirmation hearings he had "no
> >> recollection" about those conversations.
> >>
> >>      Alan Fiers, a former CIA officer who served
> as
> >> an agency liaison along with North and met weekly
> >> with Gates, testified at Gates's confirmation
> >> hearings that he discussed specific details of
> the
> >> covert operation with Gates.
> >>
> >>      "Bob Gates understood the universe,
> understood
> >> the structure, understood that there was an
> >> operational - that there was a support operation
> >> being run out of the White House," and "that
> Ollie
> >> North was the quarterback," Fiers said at Gates's
> >> confirmation hearing in 1991. "I had no reason to
> >> think he had great detail, but I do think there
> was
> >> a baseline knowledge there."
> >>
> >>      If confirmed, Gates would arguably be
> >> overseeing a war that removed a dictator he
> >> personally helped to prop up. Tom Harkin, a
> senator
> >> from Iowa, described Gates's role in intelligence
> >> sharing operations with Iraq during a time when
> the
> >> United States helped arm Saddam Hussein in Iraq's
> >> war against Iran.
> >>
> >>      "I also have doubts and questions about Mr.
> >> Gates's role in the secret intelligence sharing
> >> operation with Iraq," Harkin said during Gates's
> >> confirmation hearings on November 7, 1991.
> "Robert
> >> Gates served as assistant to the director of the
> CIA
> >>
> >> in 1981 and as deputy director for intelligence
> from
> >>
> >> 1982 to 1986. In that capacity, he helped develop
> >> options in dealing with the Iran-Iraq war, which
> >> eventually evolved into a secret intelligence
> >> liaison relationship with Saddam Hussein's Iraq.
> >> Gates was in charge of the directorate that
> prepared
> >>
> >> the intelligence information that was passed on
> to
> >> Iraq. He testified that he was also an active
> >> participant in the operation during 1986. The
> secret
> >>
> >> intelligence sharing operation with Iraq was not
> >> only a highly questionable and possibly illegal
> >> operation, but also may have jeopardized American
> >> lives and our national interests. The photo
> >> reconnaissance, highly sensitive electronic
> >> eavesdropping, and narrative texts provided to
> >> Saddam may not only have helped him in Iraq's war
> >> against Iran, but also in the recent gulf war."
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>      Jason Leopold is a former Los Angeles bureau
> >> chief for Dow Jones Newswire. He has written over
> >> 2,000 stories on the California energy crisis and
> >> received the Dow Jones Journalist of the Year
> Award
> >> in 2001 for his coverage on the issue as well as
> a
> >> Project Censored award in 2004. Leopold also
> >> reported extensively on Enron's downfall and was
> the
> >>
> >> first journalist to land an interview with former
> >> Enron president Jeffrey Skilling following
> Enron's
> >> bankruptcy filing in December 2001. Leopold has
> >> appeared on CNBC and National Public Radio as an
> >> expert on energy policy and has also been the
> >> keynote speaker at more than two dozen energy
> >> industry conferences around the country.
> >> "
> >>
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