Evolution bill may lose its 'origins of life' wording

[dirkie]

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Ja Henk de Fundie's blijven maar prutsen om de bijbel,
en in dit geval de Mormoonse Bijbel, weer meer invloed
te geven. Dat gebeurd bij de abortus en dus ook bij
Charles Darwin. Zo'n opinie onderzoek bewijst niets
want er zijn steden en stadjes in Utah die 100%
Mormoon zijn en dus van dat Darwin gedoe niets willen
weten.
Ze proberen de Dark Ages terug te brengen, wel met de
(tough love) liefde van een strenge Goth natuurlijk.
Zoiets van "The Wages of Sin are Death" Ze lijken erg
veel op de fundie islamisten en zijn beangstigend.

Heb zelf vele jaren terug een z.g. turnkey operation
opgezet bij Deseret Press in Salt Lake en werd na
enige weken bij de directie 'ontboden' waar ik 3 uur
ben doorgezaagd om maar vooral Mormoon te worden.
Ik wilde weten wat er met de gouden tabletten was
gebeurd, en dat idee van "the stake" gesanctioneerde
polygamie leek me wel wat:-))

Yowsa
dirkie
Bij de Mormonen MOET je 10% van je loon inleveren,
maar als je echt in de merode komt te zitten helpen ze
je tot het gaatje. Je mag geen koffie of alcoholische
drank, maar wel Coca-Cola drinken. Go figure

--- Henk Elegeert <HmjE at Home.nl> wrote:

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> deseretnews.com | Evolution bill may lose its
> 'origins of life' wording
>
> "
> Deseret Morning News, Thursday, February 23, 2006
>
> Evolution bill may lose its 'origins of life'
> wording
> Lawmaker wants to delete all references to 'origins
> of life'
>
> Copyright 2006 Deseret Morning News
>
> By Jennifer Toomer-Cook
> Deseret Morning News
>
> A controversial bill challenging the way evolution
> is taught in Utah
> public schools is evolving again.
>
> SB96's House sponsor, Rep. Jim Ferrin, R-Orem, wants
> to substitute the
> bill a third time, taking out all references to the
> "origins of life"
> but still aiming to keep teachers from telling
> students they evolved
> from apes.
>
> But that can happen only if the House Rules
> Committee agrees to put the
> bill up for its final legislative debate.
>
> The changes didn't win over school officials who
> oppose the bill,
> primarily because it treads on the state school
> board's authority to set
> curriculum.
>
> But a new poll shows Utahns support the
> Legislature's move to regulate
> evolution lessons.
>
> Fifty-five percent of Utah residents surveyed by Dan
> Jones & Associates
> somewhat or strongly favor legislation requiring
> public school teachers
> to "teach that evolution is not indisputably proven
> and there could be
> other reasons for human development."
>
> Forty percent said they strongly or somewhat oppose
> such a measure, and
> 5 percent didn't know.
>
> The poll of 415 Utah adults, conducted for the
> Deseret Morning News and
> KSL-TV Feb. 14-16, has a plus or minus 5 percent
> error margin.
>
> Evolution is central to the high school biology core
> curriculum.
>
> Sen. Chris Buttars, R-West Jordan, last summer said
> he received parent
> complaints that children were being taught they
> evolved from apes,
> bringing into question their faith on creation. His
> SB96 has attempted
> to stop that from happening.
>
> The bill's Senate debates centered on the merits of
> Charles Darwin's
> theory of evolution and were chock-full of religious
> references.
>
> Opponents have feared the bill would open the door
> to teaching
> creationism or "intelligent design" — the idea that
> life is too
> complicated to be explained in public school by
> Darwin's theory alone,
> which a Pennsylvania federal court earlier this
> winter struck down as
> unconstitutional.
>
> Ferrin attempted to take religion out of the
> discussion when the bill
> came to the House. His proposed substitute would
> erase references to the
> origins of life and tighten language to zero in on
> evolution.
>
> "We do not presently teach origins of life in our
> curriculum, and I
> didn't want to inadvertently have a requirement (the
> State Board of
> Education) create curriculum to address that,"
> Ferrin said.
>
> So, students could be told there is some evidence
> that leads to the
> inference that apes and humans share a common
> ancestor. But that could
> not be taught as an indisputable fact.
>
> "We can infer all we want to about the origin of the
> species . . . but
> let's not (characterize) those inferences as a
> proven fact. Let's not
> mislead our kids," Ferrin said. "It's not my desire
> schools be teaching
> any notions about religion. But it's also not my
> desire for us to be
> teaching as fact that which has not been proven as
> fact."
>
> Ferrin said the substitute would address State
> Office of Education concerns.
>
> But curriculum director Brett Moulding says the new
> incarnation is "even
> more problematic than previous versions of the
> bill." It steps on state
> school board authority to oversee curriculum and
> misrepresents the
> fact-backed theory of evolution, he said.
>
> The bill also still comes from a "poisoned well" of
> legislative intent
> based on religious beliefs, said Carol Lear,
> director of school law and
> legislation for the State Office of Education.
>
> "This is just an evolution . . . from the earlier
> bill found
> unconstitutional several times. It isn't sanitized
> because it's
> substituted and resubstituted and amended and
> re-amended," she said.
>
> The bill awaits action in the House Rules Committee,
> which chooses that
> bills get heard and which will quietly die. That
> group has not yet
> addressed Senate bills, which won't be debated in
> the House until
> Monday, said chairwoman Rep. Becky Lockhart,
> R-Provo.
>
> "Honestly, I'm not even thinking about Senate bills.
> I'm concerned about
> House bills, making sure they get a hearing and a
> chance," she said.
>
> Ferrin believes the House would like the bill in its
> current state.
>
> "I understand the Senate wants the bill heard, and
> in the last days of
> the session the House and Senate get to cooperate
> with each other,"
> Ferrin said. "I think it's a good bill and it ought
> to be heard."
> ...
> "
>
> Henk Elegeert
>
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