<div><br></div>En ... verstreek op <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">23 juli 2002, Tjerk.</span><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 16px;"><br>
</span></font><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 16px;">Wat ging er daarna mis? </span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 16px;"><br>
</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 16px;">Waarom werden de burgers er niet in betrokken? </span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 16px;">Kreeg de democratie zelf geen enkele kans?</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 16px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 16px;">Waarom zou onderlinge - desnoods innige - samenwerking niet veel beter werken dan opgesloten worden in een onzalig idee van een enkele politicus?</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 16px;"><br></span></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; ">Henk Elegeert</span></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 16px;"><br></span></font><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/12/2 T. Jouwstra <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tjouwstra@wxs.nl">tjouwstra@wxs.nl</a>></span><br>
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<div>Ja Henk, het gaat om supranationalisme, en dat bestaat al sindes inn 1952
de EGKS met een Hoge Autoriteit werd geinstalleerd.</div>
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<div>Groet,</div>
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<div>Tjerk</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="h.elegeert@gmail.com" href="mailto:h.elegeert@gmail.com" target="_blank">Henk Elegeert</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 02, 2011 3:29 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="d66@tuxtown.net" href="mailto:d66@tuxtown.net" target="_blank">informele
D66 discussielijst</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [D66] staaltje: hoe krijg je het eigen straatje
schoon</div></div></div>
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<div>Ik eerder:</div>
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<div>Verhofstadt is kennelijk niet helemaal goed bij z'n hoofd?!?!</div>
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<div>Henk Elegeert ( ... om maar eens een knuppel in het hoenderhok... )
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reaction to Sarkozy: "Intergovernmentalism is not the answer to the crisis"</h1>
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Chancellor Merkel, the chances of a coherent European response to the crisis
next week still look slim.<a name="1340056a78a231a6_sideanchor_1"></a></h3>
<div style="MARGIN-BOTTOM:10px;COLOR:rgb(80,109,159);FONT-WEIGHT:bold">02/12/2011</div>
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<p style="PADDING-BOTTOM:5px;LINE-HEIGHT:16px;MARGIN:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px">Following
two major speeches from both President Sarkozy and Chancellor Merkel, the
chances of a coherent European response to the crisis next week still look
slim.</p>
<p style="PADDING-BOTTOM:5px;LINE-HEIGHT:16px;MARGIN:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px"><b>Guy
Verhofstadt, ALDE group leader </b>said:</p>
<p style="PADDING-BOTTOM:5px;LINE-HEIGHT:16px;MARGIN:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px">"<i>Sarkozy's
speech last night was clearly addressing his domestic electorate for re-election
as President of France and not as a champion of European unity. His vision is a
Gaullist one which has been superseded by greater European integration. It is
the intergovernmental Europe of nation states all selfishly fighting their own
corner that has brought us to where we are now. The only way out of the crisis
without destroying both the Single Currency and the Single Market is to rally
behind the Community method based on solidarity and the common
interest</i>."</p>
<p style="PADDING-BOTTOM:5px;LINE-HEIGHT:16px;MARGIN:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px">"<i>European
construction is based on commonly agreed rules, enforced by independent
authorities like the European Commission and Court of Justice. Merkel and
Sarkozy must not undo this fundamental principle in their quest for an end to
the crisis</i>."</p>
<p style="PADDING-BOTTOM:5px;LINE-HEIGHT:16px;MARGIN:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px">"<i>The
elements of a solution are already on the table. As Mario Draghi said yesterday,
it is basically just a question of sequencing. We need greater fiscal discipline
from all Member States of the eurozone along with a commitment to solidarity
which must include a common vision to reduce public debt with some form of
mutual guarantee.</i></p>
<p style="PADDING-BOTTOM:5px;LINE-HEIGHT:16px;MARGIN:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px"><i>We
may need to entrench these principles via a Treaty update but measures need to
be taken now, not in several months time. Merkel and Sarkozy have only a few
days to sort out their differences or Europe risks being set back 50
years</i>."</p></div></div></div></div>
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