[D66] Zelenskyy's White House meeting ends in blowup with Trump and Vance over Ukraine's future
René Oudeweg
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Sat Mar 1 04:03:27 CET 2025
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Zelenskyy's White House meeting ends in blowup with Trump and Vance over
Ukraine's future
Kathryn Watson, Jennifer Jacobs, Weijia Jiang, Olivia Rinaldi
13–16 minutes
The signing of a key minerals agreement with Ukraine and a scheduled
news conference Friday by President Trump and Ukrainian President
Volodymyr Zelenskyy were abruptly canceled and the Ukrainian leader's
visit cut short after an Oval Office meeting that included Vice
President JD Vance descended into insults and chaos.
Afterward, the Ukrainians left the Oval Office to head to a "separated
room," while the U.S. team stayed in the Oval Office, a White House
official said. While the Ukrainians were waiting in the other room,
national security adviser Mike Waltz and Secretary of State Marco Rubio
told them to leave. The official said Zelenskyy was trying to smooth
things over and asked for a reset, but Mr. Trump and other
administration officials were offended by Zelenskyy's behavior.
The contentious meeting exposed severe rifts between the U.S. and
Ukraine, upending the planned signing of a rare minerals deal between
the two countries as Mr. Trump pressures Ukraine to agree to end the war
that Russia began. During the course of the meeting, Mr. Trump
threatened Zelenskyy to make a deal with Russia or "we're out," and
Vance accused the Ukrainian leader of being "disrespectful."
Later in the day, high level administration sources confirmed to CBS
that there have been discussions about whether U.S. will keep sending
military aid to Ukraine after the Oval Office clash between Mr. Trump
and Zelenskyy.
The meeting veered into tense exchanges after Vance said during the
course of the meeting that the world has reached this point in part
because of the Biden administration's actions, and said it was time for
diplomacy.
Zelenskyy challenged Vance on this point, noting there had been other
ceasefire agreements Russian President Vladimir Putin had broken — and
not just during the Obama administration. During Mr. Trump's
administration Putin violated the Minsk ceasefire agreements, which had
been signed by both Russia and Ukraine. And Zelenskyy pointed out that
he had signed an agreement with Putin over the exchange of prisoners,
"but he didn't do it."
"What kind of diplomacy, JD, you are speaking about," Zelenskyy asked Vance.
Vance retorted that it was "disrespectful" for Zelenskyy to try to
"litigate" his case in front of the American media.
"You should be thanking the president for trying to bring an end to this
conflict," Vance told Zelenskyy.
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Zelenskyy asked Vance if he'd ever been to Ukraine.
Vance said he's watched videos of what's happened in Ukraine, accusing
Zelenskyy of bringing people on a "propaganda tour" when they visit
Ukraine.
"Do you think that it's respectful to come to the Oval Office of the
United States of America and attack the administration that is trying to
prevent the destruction of your country?" Vance asked.
Zelenskyy, noting that for now, the U.S. is separated from the fighting
by an ocean, said of the war, "You don't feel it now, but you'll feel it
in the future."
"You don't know that," Mr. Trump argued. "You don't know that. Don't
tell us what we're going to feel. We're trying to solve a problem. Don't
tell us what we're gonna feel, because you're in no position to dictate
that. You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel. We're
going to feel very good."
"You don't have the cards right now," Mr. Trump said, as Zelenskyy
continued to interject and disagree. "With us, you start having cards.
Right now, you don't have your playing cards, your playing cards —
you're gambling with the lives of millions of people. "You're gambling
with World War III. You're gambling with World War III."
"Have you said 'thank you' once, this entire meeting? No, in this entire
meeting, have you said 'thank you,'" Vance said.
Zelenskyy kept a measured tone throughout the entire exchange, even as
Mr. Trump and Vance at times raised their voices.
"Please," Zelenskyy said. "You think that if you will speak very loudly
about the war—"
Mr. Trump cut off Zelenskyy and said his country is in "big trouble" but
"you have a damn good chance of coming out okay because of us."
Zelenskyy said his country has stayed strong from the beginning of the
war, and Ukrainians are thankful.
"It's going to be a very hard thing to do business like this," Mr. Trump
said, as Vance again chided Zelenskyy about saying "thank you."
Mr. Trump said it's "good" for the American people to see what's going on.
"You have to be thankful," Mr. Trump said. "You don't have the cards.
You're buried there, people are dying, you're running low on soldiers."
Zelenskyy said Ukraine wants the war to end but must have security
assurances along with any sort of ceasefire agreement.
Amid the chaos, a reporter asked — what if Russia violates a ceasefire?
"What if anything?" Mr. Trump responded. "What if a bomb drops on your
head right now? Okay?"
Earlier in their meeting, before it grew heated, Zelenskyy said
negotiations can't only entail talk of a ceasefire, as Mr. Trump pushes
for a ceasefire agreement without security assurances included.
"Just ceasefire will never work," Zelenskyy said, adding that "25 times"
Putin "broke his own signature," or violated his word on agreements.
"But he never broke to me," Mr. Trump said.
A White House official said that the Ukrainians "have been difficult to
negotiate with [for] quite some time," and the Oval Office argument was
"the tipping point." The minerals deal would have been a "first step to
a lasting peace," but Zelenskyy "overplayed his cards."
The meeting went so poorly that after it ended, Mr. Trump continued to
criticize Zelenskyy on social media, saying he is "not ready for peace."
"We had a very meaningful meeting in the White House today," Mr. Trump
wrote on Truth Social. "Much was learned that could never be understood
without conversation under such fire and pressure. It's amazing what
comes out through emotion, and I have determined that President
Zelenskyy is not ready for Peace if America is involved, because he
feels our involvement gives him a big advantage in negotiations. I don't
want advantage, I want PEACE. He disrespected the United States of
America in its cherished Oval Office. He can come back when he is ready
for Peace."
Zelenskyy was spotted leaving the White House at 1:41 p.m.
After his team was told to leave the White House, Zelenskyy posted on X:
"Thank you America, thank you for your support, thank you for this
visit. Thank you @POTUS, Congress, and the American people. Ukraine
needs just and lasting peace, and we are working exactly for that."
Zelenskyy was scheduled to speak at the Hudson Institute in Washington
Friday afternoon, but according to event organizers, Zelenskyy's office
informed them he would not be coming.
As Mr. Trump left for his Mar-a-Lago property in Florida on Friday
afternoon, CBS News asked him what Zelensky needs to do in order for Mr.
Trump to restart talks.
"He's gotta say, 'I wanna make peace,'" Mr. Trump said. "He doesn't have
to stand there and say about, 'Putin this, Putin that.' All negative
things. He's gotta say, 'I wanna make peace. I don't want to fight a war
any longer.' His people are dying. He doesn't have the cards just so you
understand it, okay?"
Administration sources on next steps
High-level sources with the Trump administration told CBS News that
Ukrainian officials reached out Friday afternoon to senior White House
officials desperate to get the deal back on track. However, they were
told that would not happen today. Mr. Trump was unwilling to talk to
Zelenskyy further today, the sources said.
When Rubio and Waltz went into the Roosevelt Room of the White House to
ask Zelenskyy to leave, they made it clear that any further engagements
Friday would be counterproductive, the sources said, adding that Waltz
told Zelenskyy that he had made a tremendous mistake and a disservice to
Ukraine and to the U.S.
No phone calls between Mr. Trump and Putin have been scheduled, the
sources added, while multiple European officials have called top Trump
officials since Zelenskyy departed the White House asking how the
minerals deal can be salvaged.
Regarding Zelenskyy's request for military guarantees, the U.S. made it
clear Mr. Trump wanted an economic partnership, and then they would talk
about the guarantees as part of the ceasefire if it happened, the
sources said. There was no discussion among Trump officials about
putting U.S. boots on the ground.
The sources said that the White House is uncertain if it can help
facilitate an end to the fighting. Mr. Trump is not seeking regime
change in Ukraine, the sources said, and there have been no discussions
about who in Ukraine might be a better leader than Zelenskyy.
What to know about Zelenskyy's White House visit
Mr. Trump mentioned earlier this week that the U.S. had reached a deal
with Zelenskyy on a broad framework for sharing Ukraine's mineral
resources, and that the Ukrainian leader was coming to the White House
because he "would like to sign it together with me." Negotiations over
the minerals continued despite public tension between the two leaders in
recent days. Mr. Trump appeared to blame Ukraine for the war Russia
started and labeled Zelenskyy a "dictator," while declining to say the
same of Russian President Vladimir Putin.
One Ukrainian official told CBS News Kyiv hopes the signing of the
agreement would ensure the continued flow of security support that
Ukraine needs. Mr. Trump said Thursday the deal would help pay back
American taxpayers for supporting Ukraine over the past three years.
President Trump Hosts Ukrainian President Zelenskyy At The White House
President Trump greets Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy as he
arrives at the White House on Feb. 28, 2025. Getty Images
In a post on X Wednesday, Zelenskyy wrote, "Peace and security
guarantees are the key to ensuring that Russia can no longer destroy the
lives of other nations." He added, "For me and for all of us in the
world, it's important that U.S. support is not stopped. Strength is
needed on the path to peace."
Mr. Trump spoke with Putin earlier this month and said the Russian
leader wants an end to the war. Last week, the president said he trusts
Russia to negotiate in good faith, as top Trump administration officials
met with Russian negotiators in Saudi Arabia without a Ukrainian
representative. The president on Thursday said he believes Putin would
comply with any peace agreement reached.
"I don't believe he's going to violate his word," Mr. Trump said.
Mr. Trump last week called Zelenskyy a "dictator," referring to the fact
that the Ukrainian leader's five-year term expired last year, and no new
election has been held. Ukraine has been under martial law since soon
after the war started in 2022, and the country's constitution bans
elections during martial law. On Monday, during a meeting with French
President Emmanuel Macron, Mr. Trump was asked whether he views Putin as
a dictator, since he called Zelenskyy one.
"I don't use those words lightly, I think that we're going to see how it
all works out," he replied. "Let's see what happens."
Mr. Trump has even cast blame on Kyiv for being invaded by Russia.
"You should have never started it, you could have made a deal," Mr.
Trump said of Ukraine last week.
Top Trump administration officials have also been reluctant to criticize
Putin. National security adviser Mike Waltz didn't answer directly when
a reporter asked him if Mr. Trump views Putin as a dictator. He also
sidestepped a question about who bears more responsibility for the war,
Russia or Ukraine.
Referring to Mr. Trump, Waltz replied, "His goal here is to bring this
war to an end, period."
The president frequently says the war never would have started if he had
been president, rather than Joe Biden. On the campaign trail, Mr. Trump
vowed he would end the war between Russia and Ukraine before even taking
office.
"Before I even arrive at the Oval Office, shortly after we win the
presidency, I will have the horrible war between Russia and Ukraine
settled," Mr. Trump said at a June rally. "I will get it settled before
I even become president."
But after winning the election, Mr. Trump suggested that reaching peace
between Russia and Ukraine might be more difficult than forging peace in
the Middle East.
"I think actually more difficult is going to be the Russia-Ukraine
situation," Mr. Trump said in December. "I see that as more difficult."
Earlier this week, Zelenskyy said he would give up the presidency if
doing so would achieve lasting peace for Ukraine and membership in NATO.
"If to achieve peace, you really need me to give up my post, I'm ready,"
Zelenskyy said at a forum marking the three-year anniversary of Russia's
full-scale invasion.
Kathryn Watson is a politics reporter for CBS News Digital, based in
Washington, D.C.
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