Their Morals and Ours

[Antid Oto]

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Ik heb een politieke aversie voor de NCPN, dat moge jouw toch wel
inmiddels duidelijk zijn geworden. Simplisten die de theorie van
permanente revolutie verwerpen en geen benul hadden van het
gedegenereerde karakter van de USSR. Stalinisme, "Socialism in one
country" is een dead-end.

Ik ben "D66er" bij uitstek! Ik verwerp de pragmatische en politieke
lijn van D66 in zijn kosmische totaliteit!

Wees dankbaar voor mijn presentie.

Als u mij politiek wilt uitschakelen dan zult u toch meer moeite
moeten doen. Laat uzelf eens van de filosofische kant zien. Wat is de
essentie van Elegeertisme? Ik kan het wel raden, laat maar zitten.


Henk Elegeert wrote:
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> Je zit hier (duidelijk) verkeerd, Oto: kijk hier eens ...
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> Communistische Partij van Nederland - NCPN
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> Henk Elegeert
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> 2010/2/8 Antid Oto <aorta at home.nl>:
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>> Fragment uit een belangrijk essay van L.T. over de communistische
>> moraal. Ik sluit me aan bij de strekking van dit essay. Er kunnen geen
>>  automatische antwoorden gegeven worden mbt wat moreel toelaatbaar is
>> in de klassestrijd.
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>> Dialectic Interdependence of End and Means
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>> A means can be justified only by its end. But the end in its turn
>> needs to be justified, From the Marxist point of view, which expresses
>> the historical interests of the proletariat, the end is justified if
>> it leads to increasing the power of man over nature and to the
>> abolition of the power of man over man.
>>
>> “We are to understand then that in achieving this end anything is
>> permissible?” sarcastically demands the Philistine, demonstrating that
>> he understood nothing. That is permissible, we answer, which really
>> leads to the liberation of mankind. Since this end can be achieved
>> only through revolution, the liberating morality of the proletariat of
>> necessity is endowed with a revolutionary character. It irreconcilably
>> counteracts not only religious dogma but every kind of idealistic
>> fetish, these philosophic gendarmes of the ruling class. It deduces a
>> rule for conduct from the laws of the development of society, thus
>> primarily from the class struggle, this law of all laws.
>>
>> “Just the same,” the moralist continues to insist, “does it mean that
>> in the class struggle against capitalists all means are permissible:
>> lying, frame-up, betrayal, murder, and so on?” Permissible and
>> obligatory are those and only those means, we answer, which unite the
>> revolutionary proletariat, fill their hearts with irreconcilable
>> hostility to oppression, teach them contempt for official morality and
>> its democratic echoers, imbue them with consciousness of their own
>> historic mission, raise their courage and spirit of self-sacrifice in
>> the struggle. Precisely from this it flows that not all means are
>> permissible. When we say that the end justifies the means, then for us
>> the conclusion follows that the great revolutionary end spurns those
>> base means and ways which set one part of the working class against
>> other parts, or attempt to make the masses happy without their
>> participation; or lower the faith of the masses in themselves and
>> their organization, replacing it by worship for the “leaders”.
>> Primarily and irreconcilably, revolutionary morality rejects servility
>> in relation to the bourgeoisie and haughtiness in relation to the
>> toilers, that is, those characteristics in which petty bourgeois
>> pedants and moralists are thoroughly steeped.
>>
>> These criteria do not, of course, give a ready answer to the question
>> as to what is permissible and what is not permissible in each separate
>> case. There can be no such automatic answers. Problems of
>> revolutionary morality are fused with the problems of revolutionary
>> strategy and tactics. The living experience of the movement under the
>> clarification of theory provides the correct answer to these problems.
>>
>> Dialectic materialism does not know dualism between means and end. The
>> end flows naturally from the historical movement. Organically the
>> means are subordinated to the end. The immediate end becomes the means
>> for a further end. In his play, Franz von Sickingen, Ferdinand
>> Lassalle puts the following words into the mouth of one of the heroes:
>>
>> ... “Show not the goal
>> But show also the path. So closely interwoven
>> Are path and goal that each with other
>> Ever changes, and other paths forthwith
>> Another goal set up.”
>>
>> Lassalle’s lines are not at all perfect. Still worse is the fact that
>> in practical politics Lassalle himself diverged from the above
>> expressed precept – it is sufficient to recall that he went as far as
>> secret agreements with Bismark! But the dialectic interdependence
>> between means and end is expressed entirely correctly in the
>> above-quoted sentences. Seeds of wheat must be sown in order to yield
>> an ear of wheat.
>>
>> Volledig:
>>
>> http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1938/morals/morals.htm
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