Obama capitulates to the Israel lobby

[Erik van den Muijzenberg]

REPLY TO: D66 at nic.surfnet.nl

On 7-jun-2008, at 14:29, Hein van Meeteren wrote:

> REPLY TO: D66 at nic.surfnet.nl
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> Even een oefening in audi et alterem partem: als een naburig land  
> Nederland zou dreigen met "We gaan jullie van de kaart vegen", en  
> dat land had langzamerhand de mogelijkheid die uitspraak waar te  
> maken met een kernwapen, what would you do?

Even een kleine oefening: stel dat een of ander landje, dat jouw  
regio is
opgedrongen door de grotere Europese landen plus de VS, in het geniep
een kernwapen ontwikkelt en dreigt dat het dat wapen zal gebruiken tegen
landen uit jouw regio als dat nodig mocht zijn; wat doe je dan?

Ook zo'n wapen ontwikkelen uiteraard. Wat moet je anders? Je laten
chanteren? Permanent het risico lopen dat je van de kaart wordt geveegd?

(Waarom zou Pakistan wel een atoombom mogen bezitten en Iran niet?)

> Ben benieuwd naar je antwoord, Trotsky.

Laat die ad hominems eens achterwege moreel defecte clown.


  Erik vdMb


> Antid Oto schreef:
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>> http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12944
>>
>>   June 6, 2008
>> Obama Capitulates
>> – to the Israel lobby
>> by Justin Raimondo
>>
>> Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's visit to the U.S. is part of  
>> a concerted effort, by the Israeli government and its American  
>> lobbyists, to convince U.S. lawmakers – and, most of all,  
>> President George W. Bush – that the time to attack Iran is now.  
>> The Israeli newspaper Yediot Achronot reports that Olmert will  
>> tell Bush "time is running out" on diplomacy and that he'd better  
>> launch an attack.
>>
>> In his speech to the AIPAC conference, Olmert's message was harsh  
>> and unrelenting: Iran, he said, "must be stopped by all possible  
>> means" from acquiring a nuclear capability. Yes, sanctions must be  
>> tightened, but these are only "initial steps": what's needed, he  
>> averred, are "more drastic and robust measures" – and that can  
>> only mean one thing.
>>
>> Israel would rather not act alone, but Olmert signaled that he was  
>> willing to do so if pushed: ""Israel will not tolerate the  
>> possibility of a nuclear Iran, and neither should any other  
>> country in the free world," he declared, in what was clearly a  
>> threat of unilateral action. Citing Israel's record in regard to  
>> Iraq in the eighties and Syria last year, Tim Butcher warned in  
>> the Telegraph: "The speech shortens the odds significantly on  
>> military action against Iran's nuclear program."
>>
>> The U.S. would almost certainly be drawn into the conflict if  
>> Israel carried out its threat, and Olmert knows that. So does  
>> Bush, who, in any case, may not need much persuading. After all,  
>> in his speech to the Israeli parliament last month, the President  
>> declared:
>>
>> "Permitting the world's leading sponsor of terror to possess the  
>> world's deadliest weapons would be an unforgivable betrayal for  
>> future generations. For the sake of peace, the world must not  
>> allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon."
>>
>> For the sake of peace, we must make war: a familiar refrain that  
>> echoes down through the years, mocking the living and the dead.
>>
>> The clock is ticking, and time is running out for the War Party:  
>> they must get in their licks before the most pro-Israel president,  
>> ever, leaves office. As Butcher writes: "Among Israeli supporters  
>> of military action against Iran there is concern something must be  
>> done before Mr. Bush's end of office next January as Mr. Bush is  
>> perceived as closer to Israel than any potential successor."
>>
>> Don't look to Barack Obama for deliverance from this looming  
>> conflict. In his speech to AIPAC, he clearly signed on to the  
>> Lobby's latest project, departing from his prepared text to declare:
>>
>> "I will do everything in my power to prevent Iran from obtaining a  
>> nuclear weapon. Everything in my power. Everything."
>>
>> "Everything" includes murdering tens of thousands of Iranians,  
>> mostly civilians – driving the price of oil up above $300 a barrel  
>> and destroying the US economy – and involving us in a war that  
>> will make the Iraq conflict look like a Sunday school picnic. And  
>> for what?
>>
>> The irony, of course, is that Iran is nowhere near obtaining  
>> nuclear weapons, as the President's own intelligence agencies  
>> recently informed him: but no matter. That's a small obstacle to  
>> those who disdain "the reality-based community," and see  
>> themselves as Making History while the rest of us watch, helpless  
>> and aghast. As Ha'aretz recently reported
>>
>> "Olmert will try to convince Bush to set aside the National  
>> Intelligence Estimate on Iran's nuclear program in favor of data  
>> presented by Israel, and determine the administration's policy on  
>> Iran accordingly."
>>
>> The coming war with Iran has nothing to do with "weapons of mass  
>> destruction" – no more than the invasion of Iraq ever did. It's  
>> all about preserving Israeli hegemony in the Middle East by wiping  
>> any and all recalcitrant Arab-Muslim states off the map. First  
>> Iraq, then Iran – and Syria will have its turn soon enough, along  
>> with poor prostrate Lebanon, once the jewel of the eastern  
>> Mediterranean and now an economic and political basket case.
>>
>> It is almost certain we will be at war with Iran before a new  
>> President is inaugurated: now that Obama has capitulated to the  
>> Lobby, nothing but Divine Providence can stop it.
>>
>> God help us all.
>>
>> I have to say I was wrong – dead wrong – about Obama. In my  
>> eagerness to find a bright spot in a rapidly darkening world, I  
>> grasped on to his alluring rhetoric and his at-times trenchant  
>> critique of the Bush foreign policy, like a sinking man holding on  
>> to a life-jacket. But looking for hope in all the wrong places  
>> doesn't create opportunities for peace – it only prolongs our  
>> illusions. We must face the prospect of a much more terrible  
>> conflict than we have ever known, and look it squarely in the  
>> face, without flinching or looking for false messiahs. I know many  
>> of you are disappointed, and some of you are now exclaiming "I  
>> told you so!" All that we can do now is hope, and pray, that our  
>> country – and the Iranian people – will somehow survive the coming  
>> catastrophe.
>>
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