Artikel: Sociale partners komen met manifest: Basisuitkering voor allen

Fritz van Rikxoort fritz at RIKXOORT.DEMON.NL
Sat Oct 23 15:52:24 CEST 2004


REPLY TO: D66 at nic.surfnet.nl

Ze willen pertinent geen "gratis" basisinkomen, geen vrijblijvende hangmat
meer, maar alleen dan een recht op een basisuitkering die anderen betalen,
als dat onverhoopt nodig is en voor wie oud is, met voor wie weer kan werken
evenredig harde plichten daartegenover, om te solliciteren, te revalideren
en te reintegreren, werk te aanvaarden, zonodig zich bij te scholen, en als
op eigen kracht de trampoline toch niet verlaten kan worden zich na een
eigen kansenperiode in te schrijven op een basisbaan...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hein van Meeteren" <heinwvm at chello.nl>
To: "Bart Meerdink" <bm_web at xs4all.nl>
Cc: "Discussielijst over D66" <D66 at NIC.SURFNET.NL>
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: Artikel: Sociale partners komen met manifest: Basisuitkering
voor allen


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>
> Bart Meerdink wrote:
>
>> Het manifest noemt 3 fasen: opvoeding/opleiding, productief, pensioen.
>
> Ben het ernstig met het basisinkomen eens. Inderdaad een goed onderbouwd
> plan, dat oks aller instemming verdient. Uitwerken van detrails is wel
> belangrijk (bijvoorbeeld: privé bijverzekeren boven de basis kan leiden
> tot te ernstige deling van goed en basisverzekerden).
>
> Iets anders, wat me opvalt:
>
> Die drie levensfasen, preproductief, productief en postproductief, komen
> vrijwel exáct overeen met....de Hindoïstische levensleer. Die kent ook
> drie fasen (eigenlijk vier, als je ascese meerekent), waarbij in de
> eerste fase geschoold en geworteld wordt, in de tweede fase geproduceerd
> en "neergezet"wordt, en in de derde fase ingebonden ("geretireerd")en
> losgelaten wordt. In die zin wordt onze maatschappij een beetje
> Hindoïstisch, als we dit systeem krijgen. De Hindoe's voegen er nog wat
> aan toe: in de eerste gase hécht je je aan de materie, in de tweede fase
> vermeerder je materie (dat gaat zover als kinderen op arde zetten), en
> in de derde fase onthecht je je van de materie.
>
> Mooi he.
>
> ------
>
> [Progressing through Life: The Three Stages
> The three stages of life that come from the life-affirming, Vedic side
> of Hinduism, were intially designed with the caste system in mind (of
> course). In particular, they were set up to apply to members of the
> three Twice-Born varnas: the Brahmin, the Kshatriya and the Vaishya.
> Other castes and jatis have adopted them in different ways, transforming
> them to meet their needs.
>
> The first stage is that of the student, during which a boy traditionally
> is expected to go to live and study with a teacher (a guru) for several
> years. Today only a few Brahmin families follow this tradition to the
> full extent. A boy enters into student-hood at adolescence (ages 8-12),
> and spends most of his maturing years studying. For Brahmins, this would
> mean studying and memorizing large portions of the Vedas and
> accompanying texts, along with training in the various rituals. Members
> of all castes learn how set up and maintain their own household worship,
> centered on the holy fire of Agni.
>
> For the Twice-Born castes, the ritual (samskara) of becoming a student
> contains great significance, for it is the means by which a person
> becomes reborn. This ceremony--often called the thread ceremony because
> of the red thread which the initiate wears over his left
> shoulder--symbolizes the entrance of the boy into Hinduism. Originally,
> it was at this point that the initiate was first permitted to hear the
> words of the sacred Vedas and learned his first mantra. Once initiated,
> the boy became, like other Twice-Born males, responsible for maintaining
> the balance of the cosmos.
>
> After student-hood, the next stage of life is that of householder,
> usually entered into through an elaborate, many-day marriage ceremony.
> It is during this stage that a man has children (with his wife), forms a
> family, establishes himself in a career or job, and strives to be an
> active member of his community. He will establish his own household,
> with its own worship. Indeed, with his wife, the householder is now
> responsible for ensuring that the rituals of domestic life are carried
> out at their proper times and in the proper manner. This stage is
> important because it carries the responsibilities of looking after and
> supporting people at all other stages, both male and female.
>
> The third stage of life is that of retirement. When a man reaches old
> age and his son has a family and is ready to take over the leadership of
> the household, he and his wife will retire. On the one hand, their
> household responsibilities--both religious and secular--diminish
> significantly. On the other hand, they become free to contemplate the
> meaning of their coming death and rebirth. They may choose to withdraw
> into a secluded area--perhaps become a "hermit"-- or they may involve
> themselves in more active worship (bakti) of Hinduism's pantheon of gods
> and goddesses.
>
> Each of these three stages is preceded by a samskara, a ritual that
> brings a person from the previous stage of life into the new one. While
> these are the most important stages of life, brought on by the most
> elaborate samskaras, there are many other samskaras performed during
> one's life. Traditionally, a person may undergo anywhere from 10 to 18,
> even up to 40, samskaras during their lifetime. The majority of these
> will be performed before a baby is even six months old, with many of
> them done before birth. These are believed to help a person leave their
> previous life behind and to enter successfully into their new one. Each
> samskara advances a person further along the path of life, initiating
> them into a new aspect or stage.]
>
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